Comments on: Canadian Copyright Reform would make me and my family into criminals. http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:12:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gary Patton http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-1224908 Gary Patton Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:50:49 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-1224908 Your article is clearer and more helpful than any I've read since June, Alec! Thank you for your easy-to-understand examples. Re Brendon's point, this is typicalof legislation written by lawyers. 1. They often know little about the subject about which they write complex laws and then only have peers review their drafts. 2. Leave all kinds of basic issues unclear that, once passed into law, then must be decided by the Courts in slow, expensive litigation. Dah! (I've always wondered whether this might be self-erving for the legal industry.) Blessings all! @GaryFPatton in TO Your article is clearer and more helpful than any I’ve read since June, Alec! Thank you for your easy-to-understand examples.

Re Brendon’s point, this is typicalof legislation written by lawyers.
1. They often know little about the subject about which they write complex laws and then only have peers review their drafts.
2. Leave all kinds of basic issues unclear that, once passed into law, then must be decided by the Courts in slow, expensive litigation. Dah! (I’ve always wondered whether this might be self-erving for the legal industry.)

Blessings all!

@GaryFPatton in TO

]]> By: Will Apple’s stance on DRM affect Canadian law? — Alec Saunders SquawkBox http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-1224408 Will Apple’s stance on DRM affect Canadian law? — Alec Saunders SquawkBox Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:45:11 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-1224408 [...] when will our own government admit that the copyright “reforms” they are proposing are outmoded, and no longer [...] [...] when will our own government admit that the copyright “reforms” they are proposing are outmoded, and no longer [...]

]]> By: Why I will be voting against Stephen Harper’s Conservatives when an election is called. — Alec Saunders SquawkBox http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-999391 Why I will be voting against Stephen Harper’s Conservatives when an election is called. — Alec Saunders SquawkBox Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:54:14 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-999391 [...] I’ve written previously, Bill C-61 would make most ordinary Canadian families into criminals.  Rip a CD to a PC and allow your spouse to play it on her iPod, she’s a criminal.  Keep a [...] [...] I’ve written previously, Bill C-61 would make most ordinary Canadian families into criminals.  Rip a CD to a PC and allow your spouse to play it on her iPod, she’s a criminal.  Keep a [...]

]]> By: Brendon J. Wilson http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-846296 Brendon J. Wilson Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:22:19 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-846296 Hmm, that's an interesting point. At first, I wasn't so so sure about your argument that you'd have to have a separate copy of a CD for each iPod, so I checked it out. <a href="http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Docid=3570473&file=4" rel="nofollow">Section 29.22 (1) (d)</a> states: "29.22 (1) It is not an infringement of copyright for an individual to reproduce onto a medium or device a musical work embodied in a sound recording, a performer’s performance of a musical work embodied in a sound recording, or a sound recording in which a musical work or a performer’s performance of a musical work is embodied, or any substantial part of such a work or other subject-matter, if the following conditions are met: (d) the individual reproduces the sound recording no more than once for each device that the individual owns, whether the reproduction is made directly onto the device or is made onto a medium that is to be used with the device;" The key here is "once for each device that the individual owns". It depends on who "owns" the iPods in your family. If your kids and spouse own their iPods, it's a problem. If you own them, however, it would appear that it's not a problem. Hmm, that’s an interesting point. At first, I wasn’t so so sure about your argument that you’d have to have a separate copy of a CD for each iPod, so I checked it out. Section 29.22 (1) (d) states:

“29.22 (1) It is not an infringement of copyright for an individual to reproduce onto a medium or device a musical work embodied in a sound recording, a performer’s performance of a musical work embodied in a sound recording, or a sound recording in which a musical work or a performer’s performance of a musical work is embodied, or any substantial part of such a work or other subject-matter, if the following conditions are met:

(d) the individual reproduces the sound recording no more than once for each device that the individual owns, whether the reproduction is made directly onto the device or is made onto a medium that is to be used with the device;”

The key here is “once for each device that the individual owns”. It depends on who “owns” the iPods in your family. If your kids and spouse own their iPods, it’s a problem. If you own them, however, it would appear that it’s not a problem.

]]> By: Rich Loen http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-843944 Rich Loen Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:52:19 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-843944 It'll also be illegal to keep a whole season's worth of a TV show on your PVR. It's a terrible bill. It’ll also be illegal to keep a whole season’s worth of a TV show on your PVR. It’s a terrible bill.

]]> By: Aydin Mirzaee http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-843450 Aydin Mirzaee Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:01:01 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-843450 wow, I had no idea... I'm glad we have you watching out for us :) Aydin. wow, I had no idea… I’m glad we have you watching out for us :)

Aydin.

]]> By: stevex http://saunderslog.com/2008/06/16/canadian-copyright-reform-would-make-me-and-my-family-into-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-842976 stevex Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:46:13 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/?p=4131#comment-842976 I emailed Pierre as well; I haven't heard back from him yet. I emailed Pierre as well; I haven’t heard back from him yet.

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