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	<title>Comments on: Facebook annoints XMPP, open IM endgame in sight.</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/05/14/facebook-annoints-xmpp-open-im-endgame-in-sight/#comment-770771</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, my contacts are completely different. :)

I've got 0 MSN, 4 ICQ, 10 Skype and 20 XMPP.  The funniest thing is that the ICQ contacts are all Mac users using iChat.

However, of those 20, I've got 2 on their own servers (1 is outsourced to Google), 4 on jabber.org, 6 on the corporate server and 8 on GTalk.

XMPP provides scalability?  Who said that?  XMPP is a protocol.  It makes no claims or recommendations on how to structure the back end for scalability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, my contacts are completely different. :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got 0 MSN, 4 ICQ, 10 Skype and 20 XMPP.  The funniest thing is that the ICQ contacts are all Mac users using iChat.</p>
<p>However, of those 20, I&#8217;ve got 2 on their own servers (1 is outsourced to Google), 4 on jabber.org, 6 on the corporate server and 8 on GTalk.</p>
<p>XMPP provides scalability?  Who said that?  XMPP is a protocol.  It makes no claims or recommendations on how to structure the back end for scalability.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Collins</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/05/14/facebook-annoints-xmpp-open-im-endgame-in-sight/#comment-769538</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec,

XMPP sounds like the saviour to all IM based applications but have you ever looked for a developer with experience in this space?

I'm thinking of investing in a topic based web chat application and was originally looking 3-4 months ago at flash based applications.

Everyone is saying No No No you must build in XMPP to get scalability - "it the best thing since sliced bread" etc etc.

So I thought ok fine, might cost a little more to have developed as specialist area but I'm not looking for anything too amazing just a simple proof of concept with the ability to scale out later as required.

For 3 months now I've been trying to find someone anyone who has developed a working application in XMPP, or at least someone who knows something more than "yeh I've read about it".

Lets just say it's mighty thin on the ground out there.


Cheers,
Dean Collins
www.Cognation.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec,</p>
<p>XMPP sounds like the saviour to all IM based applications but have you ever looked for a developer with experience in this space?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of investing in a topic based web chat application and was originally looking 3-4 months ago at flash based applications.</p>
<p>Everyone is saying No No No you must build in XMPP to get scalability - &#8220;it the best thing since sliced bread&#8221; etc etc.</p>
<p>So I thought ok fine, might cost a little more to have developed as specialist area but I&#8217;m not looking for anything too amazing just a simple proof of concept with the ability to scale out later as required.</p>
<p>For 3 months now I&#8217;ve been trying to find someone anyone who has developed a working application in XMPP, or at least someone who knows something more than &#8220;yeh I&#8217;ve read about it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lets just say it&#8217;s mighty thin on the ground out there.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dean Collins<br />
<a href="http://www.Cognation.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.Cognation.net</a></p>
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