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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s time to abolish VC beauty contests</title>
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		<title>By: CaseCampToronto7 + StartupCampToronto2 &#124; DavidCrow.ca</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/03/25/its-time-to-abolish-vc-beauty-contests/#comment-705770</link>
		<dc:creator>CaseCampToronto7 + StartupCampToronto2 &#124; DavidCrow.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nicely about the role of conferences the Canadian Innovation Exchange (CIX). Whether this is a beauty contest (or not), it&#8217;s been an interesting conversation about the perceived value to both [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nicely about the role of conferences the Canadian Innovation Exchange (CIX). Whether this is a beauty contest (or not), it&#8217;s been an interesting conversation about the perceived value to both [...]</p>
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		<title>By: StartupNorth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Reading - April 5, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>StartupNorth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Reading - April 5, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well.ca gets an acquisition offer. Canadian blog network raises $3M. Sold too soon? iStockphoto, which Getty acquired for $50M in 2006, hits revenue of $71M for 2007. Austin Hill of Radial Point to appear as expert witness in $25M lawsuit against Facebook. Alec Saunders thinks it’s time to abolish VC beauty contests. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well.ca gets an acquisition offer. Canadian blog network raises $3M. Sold too soon? iStockphoto, which Getty acquired for $50M in 2006, hits revenue of $71M for 2007. Austin Hill of Radial Point to appear as expert witness in $25M lawsuit against Facebook. Alec Saunders thinks it’s time to abolish VC beauty contests. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry King</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/03/25/its-time-to-abolish-vc-beauty-contests/#comment-678292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec, total respect for you and what you’ve accomplished at Iotum. I empathize with the sentiments behind this post and ensuing comments. I sense the irritation.   However, I believe the argument should be made with a bit more nuance.  

“Free” in effect says to the organizers of the Canadian Innovation Exchange (CIX) that there is no perceived value whatsoever being created by the present level of effort(s).    The event’s orchestration—the mutual convenience of face-2-face synchronizing of users and suppliers of equity capital in one place at the same time, the curating of entrepreneurs and VCs (by stage of lifecycle, or industry focus, or references), the opportunity for informed price discovery, the opportunity to simulate an auction-like environment and obtain the best price, the opportunity to collect useful market intelligence/scuttlebutt based on everyone being present at the same time.  All of this is for nought? Nada, zilch, zip, not worth the paper it is written on? 

One might argue that there is insufficient value being delivered at $495 and seek a different figure.  Or, that the Web disintermediates certain middle-man that CIX used to do so well and that for $495, one needs to see more value added to the existing package.  That’s fine.  But to say that it should be free strikes me as unfair and unreasonable.

I hold no investment in, nor do I have a business relationship with, any of the organizers of the CIE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec, total respect for you and what you’ve accomplished at Iotum. I empathize with the sentiments behind this post and ensuing comments. I sense the irritation.   However, I believe the argument should be made with a bit more nuance.  </p>
<p>“Free” in effect says to the organizers of the Canadian Innovation Exchange (CIX) that there is no perceived value whatsoever being created by the present level of effort(s).    The event’s orchestration—the mutual convenience of face-2-face synchronizing of users and suppliers of equity capital in one place at the same time, the curating of entrepreneurs and VCs (by stage of lifecycle, or industry focus, or references), the opportunity for informed price discovery, the opportunity to simulate an auction-like environment and obtain the best price, the opportunity to collect useful market intelligence/scuttlebutt based on everyone being present at the same time.  All of this is for nought? Nada, zilch, zip, not worth the paper it is written on? </p>
<p>One might argue that there is insufficient value being delivered at $495 and seek a different figure.  Or, that the Web disintermediates certain middle-man that CIX used to do so well and that for $495, one needs to see more value added to the existing package.  That’s fine.  But to say that it should be free strikes me as unfair and unreasonable.</p>
<p>I hold no investment in, nor do I have a business relationship with, any of the organizers of the CIE.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt; Is this the best way to meet potential investors?&lt;/strong&gt;

Here\'s a little secret: it\'s not difficult to get a Canadian VC to look at your business (getting them to invest is, but that\'s equally true for companies that present at VC events). They aren\'t hard to find and contact, and it won\'t cos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Is this the best way to meet potential investors?</strong></p>
<p>Here\&#8217;s a little secret: it\&#8217;s not difficult to get a Canadian VC to look at your business (getting them to invest is, but that\&#8217;s equally true for companies that present at VC events). They aren\&#8217;t hard to find and contact, and it won\&#8217;t cos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Forde</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/03/25/its-time-to-abolish-vc-beauty-contests/#comment-677797</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Forde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  It does seem a little backwards that the one with the gold has to pay to share their idea.
As someone who presented and won at Demo, do you still see value in that model Alec?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  It does seem a little backwards that the one with the gold has to pay to share their idea.<br />
As someone who presented and won at Demo, do you still see value in that model Alec?</p>
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		<title>By: Been there</title>
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		<dc:creator>Been there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Alec.

Paying to get facetime with VCs are for suckers.

Unless its DEMO, but even then its starting to seem silly given the amount of traction that its rival TC40 has gotten -- and does not charge for its exposure to the startup.

If you can't get a meeting based on the merit of your venture, or your ability find a way to connect to the right people though "hustle of making your own contacts and pitches..." then you/your team are probably not well suited for the startup game.

Another draw back about this is that you're likely to be presenting to a reasonably large audience, an audience which may have prospect and current competitors.  If you're pitching to a small group or a partner inside a board room, you're probably a bit more likely to open up some more sensitive information than a roomful of strangers.  Once again another disincentive for the startup, and a dilutive effect in the likelihood that an investor will find quality information or opportunities.

The only way I see how this type of setup can work well is (1) its well attended by media; (2) its free to selected/qualified startups, with a deal savvy selection committee; (3) the investors pay foot the bill for costs of the event as a way to gain more exposure and dealflow within the community &#38; media</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Alec.</p>
<p>Paying to get facetime with VCs are for suckers.</p>
<p>Unless its DEMO, but even then its starting to seem silly given the amount of traction that its rival TC40 has gotten &#8212; and does not charge for its exposure to the startup.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t get a meeting based on the merit of your venture, or your ability find a way to connect to the right people though &#8220;hustle of making your own contacts and pitches&#8230;&#8221; then you/your team are probably not well suited for the startup game.</p>
<p>Another draw back about this is that you&#8217;re likely to be presenting to a reasonably large audience, an audience which may have prospect and current competitors.  If you&#8217;re pitching to a small group or a partner inside a board room, you&#8217;re probably a bit more likely to open up some more sensitive information than a roomful of strangers.  Once again another disincentive for the startup, and a dilutive effect in the likelihood that an investor will find quality information or opportunities.</p>
<p>The only way I see how this type of setup can work well is (1) its well attended by media; (2) its free to selected/qualified startups, with a deal savvy selection committee; (3) the investors pay foot the bill for costs of the event as a way to gain more exposure and dealflow within the community &amp; media</p>
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		<title>By: Shai Berger</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/03/25/its-time-to-abolish-vc-beauty-contests/#comment-666755</link>
		<dc:creator>Shai Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the motion.

Especially given the small size of the Canadian VC community. 

But there are beauty contests that work quite well, e.g. DEMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the motion.</p>
<p>Especially given the small size of the Canadian VC community. </p>
<p>But there are beauty contests that work quite well, e.g. DEMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Hirsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Hirsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said! Community is great and all, but sometimes people get a little complacent and neglect the good ole gumption and hustle of making your own contacts and pitches...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said! Community is great and all, but sometimes people get a little complacent and neglect the good ole gumption and hustle of making your own contacts and pitches&#8230;</p>
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