Comments on: Martin in favour of Net Neutrality? http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:04:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/#comment-611294 Alec Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:06:14 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/#comment-611294 I don't think you're thinking through the issue carefully enough, Prokofy. As a user, I want the carrier to provide me with a pipe. If my carrier also chooses to disadvantage certain kinds of content because it's to their commercial benefit, then at minimum I have a right to know before I purchase their service. Carriers argue they should have the right to shape traffic in order to make better use of scarce resources. Users argue they've paid for the right to use the resource and accuse the carriers of manipulating the terms of the contract to advantage their own content. The only solution is transparency. Tell me what content you're disadvantaging so I can make an informed decision about whether I want to buy from you. I don’t think you’re thinking through the issue carefully enough, Prokofy.

As a user, I want the carrier to provide me with a pipe. If my carrier also chooses to disadvantage certain kinds of content because it’s to their commercial benefit, then at minimum I have a right to know before I purchase their service.

Carriers argue they should have the right to shape traffic in order to make better use of scarce resources. Users argue they’ve paid for the right to use the resource and accuse the carriers of manipulating the terms of the contract to advantage their own content.

The only solution is transparency. Tell me what content you’re disadvantaging so I can make an informed decision about whether I want to buy from you.

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/#comment-610507 Prokofy Neva Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:27:33 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/#comment-610507 I'm not getting this particular turn -- and the entire issue leaves as you and the NYT present it leaves me unpersuaded. It seems to me it isn't about "net neutrality," because the content isn't important. It's about "net behaviour". If someone is a resource hog and clogs up the bandwidth available by downloading an entire movie (probably a copyrighted movie at that), or game patch (BitTorrent is used for lots of game software for MMORPGs), then why is it that a 14-year-old kid can use all the resources of the system like that, and not have to pay extra, and slow down all the adults? I absolutely fail to grasp this sense of entitlement. Bandwidth is a finite resource, a company will have to portion it out in some reasonable manner. Why do you believe BitTorrent users have more rights to bandwidth than everyone else? They don't pay more. I’m not getting this particular turn — and the entire issue leaves as you and the NYT present it leaves me unpersuaded.

It seems to me it isn’t about “net neutrality,” because the content isn’t important. It’s about “net behaviour”. If someone is a resource hog and clogs up the bandwidth available by downloading an entire movie (probably a copyrighted movie at that), or game patch (BitTorrent is used for lots of game software for MMORPGs), then why is it that a 14-year-old kid can use all the resources of the system like that, and not have to pay extra, and slow down all the adults?

I absolutely fail to grasp this sense of entitlement. Bandwidth is a finite resource, a company will have to portion it out in some reasonable manner.

Why do you believe BitTorrent users have more rights to bandwidth than everyone else? They don’t pay more.

]]> By: Todd Spraggins http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/#comment-609212 Todd Spraggins Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:27:08 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/26/martin-in-favour-of-net-neutrality/#comment-609212 Transparency was definitely the keyword I picked up listening to the second panel, which would be a good step in the right direction. BTW, who is this Richard Bennett character - self proclaimed network architect and shill for the telcos - that was on the panel Transparency was definitely the keyword I picked up listening to the second panel, which would be a good step in the right direction. BTW, who is this Richard Bennett character - self proclaimed network architect and shill for the telcos - that was on the panel

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