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	<title>Comments on: Betamax VoIP accused of fraud</title>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-1008215</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently ran across a $15+ charge on my VISA debit card, attributed to this BetaMax company. They also charged 46 cents worth of international money changing fees. I've never used BetaMax or VoIP, and can't imagine how someone got ahold of my card number. I filed a dispute with my bank, Wells Fargo, who is discontinuing(!) my card and issuing a new one. Are we having fun yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently ran across a $15+ charge on my VISA debit card, attributed to this BetaMax company. They also charged 46 cents worth of international money changing fees. I&#8217;ve never used BetaMax or VoIP, and can&#8217;t imagine how someone got ahold of my card number. I filed a dispute with my bank, Wells Fargo, who is discontinuing(!) my card and issuing a new one. Are we having fun yet?</p>
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		<title>By: how to close a betamax account??</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-940720</link>
		<dc:creator>how to close a betamax account??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to close a betamax account?? I've searched information about how to do it and can't find the way to close my account with them. They've been recently excluding more and more countries from free destinations and it doesn't pay off anymore to use their services. Thanks for help in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to close a betamax account?? I&#8217;ve searched information about how to do it and can&#8217;t find the way to close my account with them. They&#8217;ve been recently excluding more and more countries from free destinations and it doesn&#8217;t pay off anymore to use their services. Thanks for help in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Well informed source</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-903053</link>
		<dc:creator>Well informed source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before Betamax Marc Sanders worked at Microsoft

http://center.spoke.com/info/pkSzHa/MarcSanders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before Betamax Marc Sanders worked at Microsoft</p>
<p><a href="http://center.spoke.com/info/pkSzHa/MarcSanders" rel="nofollow">http://center.spoke.com/info/pkSzHa/MarcSanders</a></p>
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		<title>By: Well informed source</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-903050</link>
		<dc:creator>Well informed source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any complaints should go straight here

Marc Sanders

sales sheriff at VoiceTrading / Betamax GmbH

Cologne Area, Germany

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/3a2/b88

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any complaints should go straight here</p>
<p>Marc Sanders</p>
<p>sales sheriff at VoiceTrading / Betamax GmbH</p>
<p>Cologne Area, Germany</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/3a2/b88" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/3a2/b88</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: students in UK</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-893761</link>
		<dc:creator>students in UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betamax  is abosolutely a cheating company. They blocked many.
I think the best way is that all of us ask our bank to give warning of the credit fraud by Betamax, and put the company in the bank's black list. If all of us do this, the bank will take some measures when doing business with this company</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betamax  is abosolutely a cheating company. They blocked many.<br />
I think the best way is that all of us ask our bank to give warning of the credit fraud by Betamax, and put the company in the bank&#8217;s black list. If all of us do this, the bank will take some measures when doing business with this company</p>
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		<title>By: Malvin</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-771065</link>
		<dc:creator>Malvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is Betamax anyways? It sounds to me like another fake company like all the other names. Besides aren't companies supposed to be registered to a person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is Betamax anyways? It sounds to me like another fake company like all the other names. Besides aren&#8217;t companies supposed to be registered to a person?</p>
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		<title>By: routeind</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-769426</link>
		<dc:creator>routeind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is there new email 

helpdesk@voicetrading.com

- Voip Wholesaler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is there new email </p>
<p><a href="mailto:helpdesk@voicetrading.com">helpdesk@voicetrading.com</a></p>
<p>- Voip Wholesaler</p>
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		<title>By: routeind</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-769420</link>
		<dc:creator>routeind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voive Trading is A TOTAL FRAUD COMPANY..  i deposited $1600 and i am not able to make calls from my softswitch.. and did not refund of my money..

Voip Wholesaler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voive Trading is A TOTAL FRAUD COMPANY..  i deposited $1600 and i am not able to make calls from my softswitch.. and did not refund of my money..</p>
<p>Voip Wholesaler</p>
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		<title>By: Akin</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-755107</link>
		<dc:creator>Akin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This company called betamax is not reliable. i have 4 accounts in all with them with about 30euro in all. all my account were blocked and  effort to rectify it from them proof abortive. please i will be glad if there can be any legal pursuit on this fraud case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This company called betamax is not reliable. i have 4 accounts in all with them with about 30euro in all. all my account were blocked and  effort to rectify it from them proof abortive. please i will be glad if there can be any legal pursuit on this fraud case.</p>
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		<title>By: AndreyDer</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-750796</link>
		<dc:creator>AndreyDer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife uses voipcheap.com services.
From the beginning everything looked OK, but then
nobody knows how they calculate those "FREE" minutes. 
My wife never used announced 300 minutes. And all the time after couple days they start charging and never reply on e-mails.
Does this fraise from their web-site (* Max 300 minutes per week of free calls, measured over the last 7 days and per unique IP address.) sounds tricky? Seems like they count always for last 7 days, which is not really per week.
Plus we found out that even when it says FREE call, your money on account went down.
We are moving from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife uses voipcheap.com services.<br />
From the beginning everything looked OK, but then<br />
nobody knows how they calculate those &#8220;FREE&#8221; minutes.<br />
My wife never used announced 300 minutes. And all the time after couple days they start charging and never reply on e-mails.<br />
Does this fraise from their web-site (* Max 300 minutes per week of free calls, measured over the last 7 days and per unique IP address.) sounds tricky? Seems like they count always for last 7 days, which is not really per week.<br />
Plus we found out that even when it says FREE call, your money on account went down.<br />
We are moving from them.</p>
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