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	<title>Comments on: Betamax VoIP accused of fraud</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-3/#comment-1780142</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to like Voipbuster, but now I can&#039;t buy credit. An errorcode 103 or 1200 occured.
They aren&#039;t in the code list, so no answer, no solution.

I tried to get an answer, but the company is mysterious, no connection with people, no e-mail addresses only with the computer. So its answer always:
try it again or with an other payment method. So no solution. It seems to be a covered company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to like Voipbuster, but now I can&#8217;t buy credit. An errorcode 103 or 1200 occured.<br />
They aren&#8217;t in the code list, so no answer, no solution.</p>
<p>I tried to get an answer, but the company is mysterious, no connection with people, no e-mail addresses only with the computer. So its answer always:<br />
try it again or with an other payment method. So no solution. It seems to be a covered company.</p>
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		<title>By: yasser</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-3/#comment-1779182</link>
		<dc:creator>yasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they real are man (stealers), they took from me until today more than 150 euro And I m decided to quite all theire services and continue to prevent my other friends who are using this sevices to quite also because I thiunk that is the right solution, becaus honestly I don t have time to run in justice and for pple who are using computers each day plz save in each forum a comment that aware pple of this company and maybe in a few months or years they will feel the klap in theire faces. 
thnx for reading my comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they real are man (stealers), they took from me until today more than 150 euro And I m decided to quite all theire services and continue to prevent my other friends who are using this sevices to quite also because I thiunk that is the right solution, becaus honestly I don t have time to run in justice and for pple who are using computers each day plz save in each forum a comment that aware pple of this company and maybe in a few months or years they will feel the klap in theire faces.<br />
thnx for reading my comment</p>
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		<title>By: Maxim</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-1730952</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using betamax providers since the early voipbuster.com. I am transferring money using paypal or credit cards. In the meantime I also setup a reseller account to where I transfer money using swift bank transfers.

Frankly I never had any of the problems described. Occasionally I get charged for free calls since I have exceeded their fair use policy. Since the per minute charge is €0.01 I really don&#039;t have a problem with that as this is still pretty cheap.

I use them through my asterisk box. So I always come from the same location out of the same household. So nothing unusual like running a callshop through them etc.

I can&#039;t remember when they started but it must be &gt;4 years ago and ever since I&#039;m still using them despite all the rants and rumors. Seems like none of the cases where people used lawyers etc. actually brought them down.

Frankly I think they&#039;re a legit company and other VoIP players are trying to put a bad reputation on them for their cheap per minute prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using betamax providers since the early voipbuster.com. I am transferring money using paypal or credit cards. In the meantime I also setup a reseller account to where I transfer money using swift bank transfers.</p>
<p>Frankly I never had any of the problems described. Occasionally I get charged for free calls since I have exceeded their fair use policy. Since the per minute charge is €0.01 I really don&#8217;t have a problem with that as this is still pretty cheap.</p>
<p>I use them through my asterisk box. So I always come from the same location out of the same household. So nothing unusual like running a callshop through them etc.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember when they started but it must be &gt;4 years ago and ever since I&#8217;m still using them despite all the rants and rumors. Seems like none of the cases where people used lawyers etc. actually brought them down.</p>
<p>Frankly I think they&#8217;re a legit company and other VoIP players are trying to put a bad reputation on them for their cheap per minute prices.</p>
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		<title>By: A K Zaman</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-1694804</link>
		<dc:creator>A K Zaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all,
Pls buy credit from RESELLER and u will have no problem at all.
You can contact me too to buy
100 Betmax card of any brand with user name, password and credit of 5 euro each will cost u only 550 euro.
So you can sell and make profit too.
Thanks
Zaman
akzaman@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all,<br />
Pls buy credit from RESELLER and u will have no problem at all.<br />
You can contact me too to buy<br />
100 Betmax card of any brand with user name, password and credit of 5 euro each will cost u only 550 euro.<br />
So you can sell and make profit too.<br />
Thanks<br />
Zaman<br />
<a href="mailto:akzaman@gmail.com">akzaman@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Comdif</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-1691012</link>
		<dc:creator>Comdif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Betamax is Voip Alibaba
I have got a very serious problem with them lost money
and maybe some police problems.
see here http://comdif.com/vtrade.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Betamax is Voip Alibaba<br />
I have got a very serious problem with them lost money<br />
and maybe some police problems.<br />
see here <a href="http://comdif.com/vtrade.html" rel="nofollow">http://comdif.com/vtrade.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-1661271</link>
		<dc:creator>ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dairo u should tell us how u paid if using credit card that mean that ur money will be refunded to it if not alresdy done !!! using other payments method like u kash or cash u without receiving the money needs another approach,any way the money will be refunded!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dairo u should tell us how u paid if using credit card that mean that ur money will be refunded to it if not alresdy done !!! using other payments method like u kash or cash u without receiving the money needs another approach,any way the money will be refunded!</p>
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		<title>By: dairo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone should please help me,l feel so bad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone should please help me,l feel so bad</p>
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		<title>By: dairo</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-1659083</link>
		<dc:creator>dairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>l bought credit twice 12.50  making 25euro altogether and it over one month till now l have not gotten my credit,and the money as being withdrawn from  my account.what do l do now am worried</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>l bought credit twice 12.50  making 25euro altogether and it over one month till now l have not gotten my credit,and the money as being withdrawn from  my account.what do l do now am worried</p>
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		<title>By: fabrizio</title>
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		<dc:creator>fabrizio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment the problem is that I payed for credit (10 €) and subscription (2,50 €) and they are saying that only received from me 10 €, they are saying that 2,50 € are V.A.T. and handling fees but I can demonstrate by their invoice that I payed 15,47 € (10 € for credit, 2,50 € for the subscription, 0,50 € handling fees, 2,47 (19% V.A.T.) for a correct totally of 15,47 €
Now, reading this forum I&#039;m afraid they can charge my credit card!
I&#039;m just thinking to lock it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment the problem is that I payed for credit (10 €) and subscription (2,50 €) and they are saying that only received from me 10 €, they are saying that 2,50 € are V.A.T. and handling fees but I can demonstrate by their invoice that I payed 15,47 € (10 € for credit, 2,50 € for the subscription, 0,50 € handling fees, 2,47 (19% V.A.T.) for a correct totally of 15,47 €<br />
Now, reading this forum I&#8217;m afraid they can charge my credit card!<br />
I&#8217;m just thinking to lock it</p>
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		<title>By: khalid</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-1628053</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now they are very big in middle east. Freecalls, action voip etc.... a lot of new brands, same problem, after a while cannot call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now they are very big in middle east. Freecalls, action voip etc&#8230;. a lot of new brands, same problem, after a while cannot call.</p>
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