Comments on: Transitive Privacy Guarantees http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:15:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: /pd http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/#comment-523247 /pd Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:42:20 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/#comment-523247 Yes, that article was brillent- a gem !! This issue needs to be addressed for the web2.0 to mature into a robust platform. However, I refrained from commenting for a couple of days as I am still thinking about the "sharing is caring" -syndrome One thing is certain, users need to be educated on the pitfalls of TOS / EULA. Tell me how many time do you ever read a TOS / EULA when you sign up for a service or install a new app ? User's just enter their data into the system , thinking that everything is "protected" - as rightfully they should. you are correct, companies should have the opt in/out on whether this data and what data can be shared or not. However, this does not stop Mr.Spammollliza to screen scrap /harverst data from unspecting users and then use that info for malicious intent and therein lies the issue. The root issue is that they have 'stolen' data- either for good use or bad use- thats a fact. What is lacking is the legislation across the board which can deal with this scenario. The laws needs to clamp down on such behavior . All companies and All users may in all good intentions- "share" their data because they "Care" too with one another. Needless to say "Ms.Manners" sometimes steps out of the door and a user will then give the data out to marketers and whomever. This is an infringement of trust between users- and this is a social thing. No amount of manifesto's can solve this issue. How does a social community know when and how trust has been broken ? There is no set grievence sounding board for such . E.g If I suspect Alex has given my personal info to XYZ.inc - who do I yell to ?? Alex or XYZ.inc ? what action is XYC legally board to take ? how do I share the info that trust has been broken within my community ? Will this not open doors for personal litigation too ?? The issue is not just a technical in nature , its also about humanity being a lot more "responsible" and "response able" to themselves and to the community. Not sure, if I am articulating my thoughts perfectly, but one thing I know,is this issue is here to stay and profound action needed. from all quarters, governments, business and users and only when that happens will there be a maturity of humans into HumanityV2.0 :)- Yes, that article was brillent- a gem !! This issue needs to be addressed for the web2.0 to mature into a robust platform.

However, I refrained from commenting for a couple of days as I am still thinking about the “sharing is caring” -syndrome

One thing is certain, users need to be educated on the pitfalls of TOS / EULA. Tell me how many time do you ever read a TOS / EULA when you sign up for a service or install a new app ? User’s just enter their data into the system , thinking that everything is “protected” - as rightfully they should.

you are correct, companies should have the opt in/out on whether this data and what data can be shared or not. However, this does not stop Mr.Spammollliza to screen scrap /harverst data from unspecting users and then use that info for malicious intent and therein lies the issue. The root issue is that they have ’stolen’ data- either for good use or bad use- thats a fact. What is lacking is the legislation across the board which can deal with this scenario. The laws needs to clamp down on such behavior .

All companies and All users may in all good intentions- “share” their data because they “Care” too with one another. Needless to say “Ms.Manners” sometimes steps out of the door and a user will then give the data out to marketers and whomever. This is an infringement of trust between users- and this is a social thing. No amount of manifesto’s can solve this issue. How does a social community know when and how trust has been broken ? There is no set grievence sounding board for such . E.g If I suspect Alex has given my personal info to XYZ.inc - who do I yell to ?? Alex or XYZ.inc ? what action is XYC legally board to take ? how do I share the info that trust has been broken within my community ? Will this not open doors for personal litigation too ??

The issue is not just a technical in nature , its also about humanity being a lot more “responsible” and “response able” to themselves and to the community.

Not sure, if I am articulating my thoughts perfectly, but one thing I know,is this issue is here to stay and profound action needed. from all quarters, governments, business and users and only when that happens will there be a maturity of humans into HumanityV2.0 :)-

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/#comment-517930 Alec Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:25:49 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/#comment-517930 Thank Paul! Appreciate it. Thank Paul! Appreciate it.

]]> By: Paul Sweeney http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/#comment-517879 Paul Sweeney Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:02:18 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/08/transitive-privacy-guarantees/#comment-517879 And a great post it was too. And a great post it was too.

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