Comments on: Flashphone.RU: a softphone built on Adobe Flash http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:51:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jason Fischl http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-441149 Jason Fischl Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:46:55 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-441149 Flash-based phones must use TCP for the media. Moreover, the media has to go back to the http server that served the page containing the flash. As a result the scalability is questionable. But the biggest problem is that when you carry media over TCP you will have substantial latency if there is any packet loss since TCP guarantees delivery and the order of the packets. This is why some people report good quality and others report horrible quality. As Alec writes, if the page containing the flash is served off of a switched network, there is likely not going to be any packet loss and it will likely work just fine. In any non-switched environment it just isn't going to work reliably enough for anybody to use this for real. In other words, if you load the flash off of a page on the Internet, it won't be reliable. Flash-based phones must use TCP for the media. Moreover, the media has to go back to the http server that served the page containing the flash. As a result the scalability is questionable. But the biggest problem is that when you carry media over TCP you will have substantial latency if there is any packet loss since TCP guarantees delivery and the order of the packets. This is why some people report good quality and others report horrible quality.

As Alec writes, if the page containing the flash is served off of a switched network, there is likely not going to be any packet loss and it will likely work just fine. In any non-switched environment it just isn’t going to work reliably enough for anybody to use this for real. In other words, if you load the flash off of a page on the Internet, it won’t be reliable.

]]> By: user http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-438369 user Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:57:26 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-438369 I have no latency issue, i called to USA great quality and in Italy also... Maybe there is something with your connection? I have no latency issue, i called to USA great quality and in Italy also… Maybe there is something with your connection?

]]> By: Dean Elwood http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-438207 Dean Elwood Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:06:43 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-438207 Latency is an issue. One of our moderators tested flashphone and found it to have a two-second delay. Your mileage will vary with TCP/IP. Adobe Flash 10 will have a SIP stack and UDP functionality and is currently set for release in March 2008. Latency is an issue. One of our moderators tested flashphone and found it to have a two-second delay. Your mileage will vary with TCP/IP.

Adobe Flash 10 will have a SIP stack and UDP functionality and is currently set for release in March 2008.

]]> By: user http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-436569 user Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:00:20 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-436569 flashphone is true flash based service, you don't need to install anything except adobe flash and yes, it works in Linux and in any modern browser and on pocket PC flashphone is true flash based service, you don’t need to install anything except adobe flash and yes, it works in Linux and in any modern browser and on pocket PC

]]> By: omfut http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-435798 omfut Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:56 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-435798 Gizmo call only uses flash for audio driver access. I dont think its a pure flash based softphone. What they actualy download is not a browser plugin- its an application that runs in the background always. Looks like the browser talks to this application for media transfer. Gizmo call only uses flash for audio driver access. I dont think its a pure flash based softphone. What they actualy download is not a browser plugin- its an application that runs in the background always. Looks like the browser talks to this application for media transfer.

]]> By: Markus Göbel's Tech News Comments http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-435714 Markus Göbel's Tech News Comments Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:30:03 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/11/09/flashphoneru-a-softphone-built-on-adobe-flash/#comment-435714 Gizmo Call is also a flashphone based on Adobe Flash 9 which lets you make calls from a website. Only that when you use it for the first time it asks you to download a plugin for Windows or Mac. So Linux users stay outside. I wonder if the Russians can circumvent this problem. Gizmo Call is also a flashphone based on Adobe Flash 9 which lets you make calls from a website. Only that when you use it for the first time it asks you to download a plugin for Windows or Mac. So Linux users stay outside. I wonder if the Russians can circumvent this problem.

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