Comments on: Ooma? Oh my… http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:12:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ooma revisited » VoIP Buzz! http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-395455 Ooma revisited » VoIP Buzz! Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:34:21 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-395455 [...] saunderslog.comPeople have been pinging me all morning about Ooma, the new hardware based peer-to-peer VoIP [...] [...] saunderslog.comPeople have been pinging me all morning about Ooma, the new hardware based peer-to-peer VoIP [...]

]]> By: Ooma - Will Blow $27 Million : Fair or Unfair http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-364900 Ooma - Will Blow $27 Million : Fair or Unfair Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:23:18 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-364900 [...] September), I read Techcrunch (a corporate release blurb rubbished in the comments). Then Saunderlog, and Aswath. Like them I don’t get to try it. Aswath provides the technical reasons why it [...] [...] September), I read Techcrunch (a corporate release blurb rubbished in the comments). Then Saunderlog, and Aswath. Like them I don’t get to try it. Aswath provides the technical reasons why it [...]

]]> By: Jerry Kindall http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-333194 Jerry Kindall Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:51:20 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-333194 The idea that your call might be terminated at another subscriber's home gives me the heebie-jeebies. First, it'll never work as a business model. The whole point of VOIP is to get rid of the land line. So very few people will even have this ability. Even if I did have a landline, I wouldn't let Ooma use it because it would make me liable for harassing and criminal calls. A business model that relies on subscribers doing this in large numbers is ridiculous. Second, I most assuredly do not want random people to be able to listen in on my calls, which becomes a real possibility (actually, an inevitability) if my call is entering the POTS network at someone's house. Third, the caller ID and ANI on a call routed this way will be the local phone line's number, not mine, making it impossible to (for example) activate credit cards with the line. Not that I'd want to because of the preceding point. So basically, I can get a free service that is worth exactly what I'm paying for it, and all I need to do is fork over $400 for the hardware? No thanks. The idea that your call might be terminated at another subscriber’s home gives me the heebie-jeebies.

First, it’ll never work as a business model. The whole point of VOIP is to get rid of the land line. So very few people will even have this ability. Even if I did have a landline, I wouldn’t let Ooma use it because it would make me liable for harassing and criminal calls. A business model that relies on subscribers doing this in large numbers is ridiculous.

Second, I most assuredly do not want random people to be able to listen in on my calls, which becomes a real possibility (actually, an inevitability) if my call is entering the POTS network at someone’s house.

Third, the caller ID and ANI on a call routed this way will be the local phone line’s number, not mine, making it impossible to (for example) activate credit cards with the line. Not that I’d want to because of the preceding point.

So basically, I can get a free service that is worth exactly what I’m paying for it, and all I need to do is fork over $400 for the hardware? No thanks.

]]> By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-333008 Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:15:51 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-333008 <strong>Why Ooma is a security risk</strong> I think Ooma will not work, especially in the USA where people are so afraid of terrorists. Would you borrow your phone to Al Qaeda for their next announcement? No? But you might be doing it with Ooma, without even notice. Out of the same reason Jeff... Why Ooma is a security risk

I think Ooma will not work, especially in the USA where people are so afraid of terrorists. Would you borrow your phone to Al Qaeda for their next announcement? No? But you might be doing it with Ooma, without even notice. Out of the same reason Jeff…

]]> By: Ooma revisited -- Alec Saunders .LOG http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-332944 Ooma revisited -- Alec Saunders .LOG Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:30:32 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-332944 [...] Ooma team has done a number of things to address quality.  The Hub itself does all the things you would expect that it might.  It’s a QoS [...] [...] Ooma team has done a number of things to address quality.  The Hub itself does all the things you would expect that it might.  It’s a QoS [...]

]]> By: Shai Berger http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-332349 Shai Berger Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:49:38 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-332349 Price point of the box is certainly an issue. But, if units don't move, they can lower the price. They have enough money to subsidize the box for a while. Legal aspects might be the real achiles heel. The service agreement I have with Bell (in Toronto) explicitly says the line is for my own personal and non-commercial use. I wonder if Ooma is in for a battle similar to TruPhone vs T-Mobile. Price point of the box is certainly an issue. But, if units don’t move, they can lower the price. They have enough money to subsidize the box for a while.

Legal aspects might be the real achiles heel. The service agreement I have with Bell (in Toronto) explicitly says the line is for my own personal and non-commercial use. I wonder if Ooma is in for a battle similar to TruPhone vs T-Mobile.

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-332319 Alec Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:16:18 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-332319 thanks for the correction David. I'm going to dig out my Gnome and hook it up tonight again. It's been a while since I've looked at it. thanks for the correction David. I’m going to dig out my Gnome and hook it up tonight again. It’s been a while since I’ve looked at it.

]]> By: Gene http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-332306 Gene Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:57:05 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-332306 $400 sounds quite high. There's another P2P system called FreePP that should be a lot less. Check out www.freepp.com for the FreePP box which should be alot less than $100. $400 sounds quite high. There’s another P2P system called FreePP that should be a lot less. Check out http://www.freepp.com for the FreePP box which should be alot less than $100.

]]> By: David Beckemeyer http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-332264 David Beckemeyer Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:59:30 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-332264 Minor correction. PhoneGnome does in fact support "peer-to-peer terminations" through our services/features called MobileGnome, SoftGnome, our Mobile Plug-in, and others. MobileGnome, for instance, would permit users you specifcy from placing calls via your home-landline. We do not, at this time, offer a "routecalls automatically through other peoples phone lines" product, because we are not confortable with the legal aspects of doing so (and we don't think the market is that significant) but the platform could do that, and any third party could build such an application on our platform, using our APIs and third-party integration capabilities, and be delivering service in a matter of weeks, at a lot less than $27 million :) Minor correction. PhoneGnome does in fact support “peer-to-peer terminations” through our services/features called MobileGnome, SoftGnome, our Mobile Plug-in, and others. MobileGnome, for instance, would permit users you specifcy from placing calls via your home-landline. We do not, at this time, offer a “routecalls automatically through other peoples phone lines” product, because we are not confortable with the legal aspects of doing so (and we don’t think the market is that significant) but the platform could do that, and any third party could build such an application on our platform, using our APIs and third-party integration capabilities, and be delivering service in a matter of weeks, at a lot less than $27 million :)

]]> By: Zoli’s Blog » Blog Archive » I Was an Ooma White Rabbit http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-332223 Zoli’s Blog » Blog Archive » I Was an Ooma White Rabbit Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:50:58 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/19/ooma-oh-my/#comment-332223 [...] VoIP, Broadband , Podcasting News, VoIP & Gadgets Blog,  Engadget, IP Democracy, Alec Saunders .LOG, Mark Evans, robhyndman.com and VoIP [...] [...] VoIP, Broadband , Podcasting News, VoIP & Gadgets Blog,  Engadget, IP Democracy, Alec Saunders .LOG, Mark Evans, robhyndman.com and VoIP [...]

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