Comments on: Truphone wins injunction against T-Mobile. Lives to fight another day. http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:24:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-331246 Alec Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:11:56 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-331246 I think Truphone is more than a "CLEC without facilities" -- they've got presence, for instance, in their feature set. The problem for them seems to be the "without facilities" business model. The guy they're depending on to get paid doesn't want to do it! I think Truphone is more than a “CLEC without facilities” — they’ve got presence, for instance, in their feature set. The problem for them seems to be the “without facilities” business model. The guy they’re depending on to get paid doesn’t want to do it!

]]> By: Aswath http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-331063 Aswath Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:57:53 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-331063 So it looks like a manufactured victory for Truphone. Essentially they agreed to the tariff proposed by T-Mobile, but it is being clothed under "court ordered injunction". My understanding is that in UK, termination charges are higher for wireline to wireless calls. So if such calls are in sufficient number, they should be doing just fine. By the way, after all the promises of new features that VoIP will deliver, it looks like the industry has settled on "CLEC without facilities" feature alone. So it looks like a manufactured victory for Truphone. Essentially they agreed to the tariff proposed by T-Mobile, but it is being clothed under “court ordered injunction”.

My understanding is that in UK, termination charges are higher for wireline to wireless calls. So if such calls are in sufficient number, they should be doing just fine. By the way, after all the promises of new features that VoIP will deliver, it looks like the industry has settled on “CLEC without facilities” feature alone.

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-330681 Alec Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:22 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-330681 Indeed, Aswath. Truphone have just published the judgement, and it appears that what they have won is this: T-Mobile must pass calls to Truphone, but only at the very low rates they initially proposed. http://www.truphone.com/2007/07/17/t_mobile/judgment_software_cellular_network_v_t_mobile.doc If that's the case, then they are really not a lot further ahead than before. People can make calls to Truphone from T-Mobile, but Truphone's business model won't work for long at the rates they're getting paid. Indeed, Aswath. Truphone have just published the judgement, and it appears that what they have won is this: T-Mobile must pass calls to Truphone, but only at the very low rates they initially proposed.

http://www.truphone.com/2007/07/17/t_mobile/judgment_software_cellular_network_v_t_mobile.doc

If that’s the case, then they are really not a lot further ahead than before. People can make calls to Truphone from T-Mobile, but Truphone’s business model won’t work for long at the rates they’re getting paid.

]]> By: Aswath http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-330627 Aswath Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:32:53 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/07/17/truphone-wins-injunction-against-t-mobile-lives-to-fight-another-day/#comment-330627 I think that the dispute is a bit more legally nuanced for me to fully appreciate it. I understand that Truphone stipulates the interconnect carrier T-Mobile has to use. You can see the details at http://telebusillis.blogspot.com/2007/07/truphone-t-mobile-interconnect-battle.html . Like I said this is all too legal for me. But one thing I conclude: the fight is not between VoIP and its foes; it is an intramural fight in the regulated world. I think that the dispute is a bit more legally nuanced for me to fully appreciate it. I understand that Truphone stipulates the interconnect carrier T-Mobile has to use. You can see the details at http://telebusillis.blogspot.com/2007/07/truphone-t-mobile-interconnect-battle.html . Like I said this is all too legal for me. But one thing I conclude: the fight is not between VoIP and its foes; it is an intramural fight in the regulated world.

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