Comments on: Mobility and the “New Presence” http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:05:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The PhoneBoy Blog » Reducing My Identities http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-88315 The PhoneBoy Blog » Reducing My Identities Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:44:25 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-88315 [...] A few days ago, I wrote a piece that was in response to Alec Saunders post on Presence 2.0. The nucleus for this post came from this passage that a few people have quoted since then: The problem I have isn’t a presence problem, it’s an identity problem. I have too many identities! I know a larger subset of people that have that problem rather than a “presence management” problem. And I think I have a solution: a single identity for all networks. [...] [...] A few days ago, I wrote a piece that was in response to Alec Saunders post on Presence 2.0. The nucleus for this post came from this passage that a few people have quoted since then: The problem I have isn’t a presence problem, it’s an identity problem. I have too many identities! I know a larger subset of people that have that problem rather than a “presence management” problem. And I think I have a solution: a single identity for all networks. [...]

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83825 Alec Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:43:35 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83825 You gave me a chuckle Sean. I've seen the conversing urinator many many times. And of course, the Pavlovian Blackberry user as well. Manual configuration, in my opinion, isn't an option. Truly intelligent systems will become presence prostheses -- able to anticipate what you would likely do, and act upon your behalf. You gave me a chuckle Sean. I’ve seen the conversing urinator many many times. And of course, the Pavlovian Blackberry user as well.

Manual configuration, in my opinion, isn’t an option. Truly intelligent systems will become presence prostheses — able to anticipate what you would likely do, and act upon your behalf.

]]> By: Sean O'Mahony http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83797 Sean O'Mahony Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:18:56 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83797 This is very, very interesting Alec. I've enjoyed reading it. One thing that struck me though was the social component of presence. As you point out many of the components that make up this model already exist and we manually configure our presence and our status -- which is a massive pain. However, some people can't even manage this. By this I mean the person we often meet in the morning in the line up for a coffee. Yes that obnoxious person screaming into their phone about some banal problem at work that now becomes part of our life. Or that person who you are meeting with whose BB vibrates and in the ultimate pavolvian response disengages with you places this interruption ahead of his interaction wit you. Or the ultimate -- sadly I see this more and more. You're in the airport having a pee and some bloke walks in with his phone attached to his ahead on a business call and goes ahead and has a pee while on the call! So I'm interested to see if the application of technology can change some of this behaviour because some people just cannot manage their presence status in this existing world. This is very, very interesting Alec. I’ve enjoyed reading it. One thing that struck me though was the social component of presence. As you point out many of the components that make up this model already exist and we manually configure our presence and our status — which is a massive pain. However, some people can’t even manage this.

By this I mean the person we often meet in the morning in the line up for a coffee. Yes that obnoxious person screaming into their phone about some banal problem at work that now becomes part of our life. Or that person who you are meeting with whose BB vibrates and in the ultimate pavolvian response disengages with you places this interruption ahead of his interaction wit you. Or the ultimate — sadly I see this more and more. You’re in the airport having a pee and some bloke walks in with his phone attached to his ahead on a business call and goes ahead and has a pee while on the call!

So I’m interested to see if the application of technology can change some of this behaviour because some people just cannot manage their presence status in this existing world.

]]> By: MGU http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83732 MGU Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:37:05 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83732 So far I've managed without one - a cell phone that is! Dad So far I’ve managed without one - a cell phone that is! Dad

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83622 Alec Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:28:25 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83622 I totally agree Martin. Location is a huge piece of this puzzle. Happy holidays to you too! I totally agree Martin. Location is a huge piece of this puzzle. Happy holidays to you too!

]]> By: Martin Dufort http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83375 Martin Dufort Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:34:16 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83375 Alec, Ken: I think your physical location will always be key in this context. However with the advent of mobile phones, we now can be reached everywhere but we do not necessarily want to be, not by everyone, not at all locations (thus your blackberry example). Uniting physical location (GPS-supplied, or self-identified) and your view of "your" world is what will make this succesful and will drive your "New presence" I think Alec. But again privacy will play a big role also. On that note David H. Williams had a <a href="http://www.lbs360.net/articles/index.php?article_id=2323">very informative article</a> on the lbs360.net site that talked about determining privacy requirements for Location-Based Services. However, I think Ken's comments are right on the money... Happy holidays ;-) Martin Alec, Ken: I think your physical location will always be key in this context. However with the advent of mobile phones, we now can be reached everywhere but we do not necessarily want to be, not by everyone, not at all locations (thus your blackberry example).

Uniting physical location (GPS-supplied, or self-identified) and your view of “your” world is what will make this succesful and will drive your “New presence” I think Alec. But again privacy will play a big role also.

On that note David H. Williams had a very informative article on the lbs360.net site that talked about determining privacy requirements for Location-Based Services.

However, I think Ken’s comments are right on the money…
Happy holidays ;-) Martin

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83334 Alec Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:01:50 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83334 I think you're on to something Ken :) Cheers! A I think you’re on to something Ken :) Cheers!

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]]> By: Ken Camp http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83316 Ken Camp Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:30:47 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/21/mobility-and-the-new-presence/#comment-83316 Alec, as much as I want to flesh this idea out this evening, I'm bandwidth constrained with holiday preparation. But let me toss a quick brainfart your way. Take iotum's intelligent presence engine. Add in a mobile with GPS. Tie in something like Plazes. Add Twitter to the mix. Now I can tell my "Internet social director" never bother me at this location because it's the bog boss' office. Let me correlate via SMS some information about the GPS coordinates where I am. OK, give me voice synthesis and let me do it with a phone call too. Or IM. Infinite possibility. This is pure technology speculation, but hey, I've been dealing with cluetards all afternoon and I'm allowed to wildly hit and run. And that's what I've gotta do now....run and do holiday stuff. Best atcha! Alec, as much as I want to flesh this idea out this evening, I’m bandwidth constrained with holiday preparation. But let me toss a quick brainfart your way.

Take iotum’s intelligent presence engine.

Add in a mobile with GPS.

Tie in something like Plazes.

Add Twitter to the mix.

Now I can tell my “Internet social director” never bother me at this location because it’s the bog boss’ office.

Let me correlate via SMS some information about the GPS coordinates where I am. OK, give me voice synthesis and let me do it with a phone call too. Or IM. Infinite possibility.

This is pure technology speculation, but hey, I’ve been dealing with cluetards all afternoon and I’m allowed to wildly hit and run. And that’s what I’ve gotta do now….run and do holiday stuff.

Best atcha!

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