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	<title>Comments on: GotVoice: the SMTP of Voice Mail.</title>
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		<title>By: Carl Ford</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2006/06/05/gotvoice-the-smtp-of-voice-mail/#comment-16281</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec,  

Thanks for the discussion and you bring up good points.  IMHO the issue on UM's is state.  Scott Bradner would tell me I should be able to use a cookie to when voice mail is left behind.  I dont have to poll and in theory the presentity of my voice mail box could be marked available, once.  

More on Jeff's Blog.

Kind Regards,

carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec,  </p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion and you bring up good points.  IMHO the issue on UM&#8217;s is state.  Scott Bradner would tell me I should be able to use a cookie to when voice mail is left behind.  I dont have to poll and in theory the presentity of my voice mail box could be marked available, once.  </p>
<p>More on Jeff&#8217;s Blog.</p>
<p>Kind Regards,</p>
<p>carl</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if they're not paying for wireless minutes (which I agree, is unlikely), they're still going to be paying for PSTN charges.  For a free service, even small PSTN charges are an expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if they&#8217;re not paying for wireless minutes (which I agree, is unlikely), they&#8217;re still going to be paying for PSTN charges.  For a free service, even small PSTN charges are an expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://saunderslog.com/2006/06/05/gotvoice-the-smtp-of-voice-mail/#comment-16243</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"which is workable but will incur network charges to poll and retrieve the voice mails."

Do you mean wireless network charges?  As far as I can see, they can poll my (generally Octel, or some Lucent derivative) box via PSTN provided I give them my PIN, so they shouldn't incur network charges (negligable if any)

Your point isn't lost, I agree with you. If carriers operated on platforms VXML/SIP etc., and didn't rely on proprietary messaging gear, they would be open to third party solutions for a variety of vendors ie: LD deregulation, it woudl actually increase revenue in the long term and create partners rather than competitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;which is workable but will incur network charges to poll and retrieve the voice mails.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you mean wireless network charges?  As far as I can see, they can poll my (generally Octel, or some Lucent derivative) box via PSTN provided I give them my PIN, so they shouldn&#8217;t incur network charges (negligable if any)</p>
<p>Your point isn&#8217;t lost, I agree with you. If carriers operated on platforms VXML/SIP etc., and didn&#8217;t rely on proprietary messaging gear, they would be open to third party solutions for a variety of vendors ie: LD deregulation, it woudl actually increase revenue in the long term and create partners rather than competitors.</p>
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