Comments on: Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/ A daily round table on the tech industry with experts and callers from all over the globe. Join us as we pick apart the news and get to the meat of what\'s happening out there. Sat, 17 May 2008 01:07:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Andrwe LAdanowski http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-17268 Andrwe LAdanowski Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:57:37 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-17268 My name is Andrew Ladanowski I used to work for Tina Romeo-Salem when I was at Crosskeys. I worked for her for about 6 months to replace a lady who was on maternity leave. Could you please forward this email to her and ask her to email or call me ASAP. I need her for a reference/acknowledgement of employment. This is urgent Cheers Andrew Ladanowski (954) 815-2402 My name is Andrew Ladanowski I used to work for Tina Romeo-Salem when I was at Crosskeys. I worked for her for about 6 months to replace a lady who was on maternity leave. Could you please forward this email to her and ask her to email or call me ASAP. I need her for a reference/acknowledgement of employment.

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]]> By: Installing Windows Vista -- Alec Saunders .LOG http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4605 Installing Windows Vista -- Alec Saunders .LOG Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:55:49 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4605 [...] After the hogwash posting, I received a number of comments on this piece of it: I’ve lived through lots of Windows launches inside Microsoft (3.1, NT 3.1, NT 3.5, Windows 95, NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 98 SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000) and outside (Windows XP beta tester).  I love early software. I’ll put up with just about any egregious bloated crap just to see what the fuss is all about.  But you know, at this point I’ve been unable to succesfully install and use any version of the Windows Vista CTPs, or IE 7.  If Vista was really six months away from shipping, it would be a lot more finished, the way that any of those previous versions of Windows were at this stage.  Anybody who had tried Vista would have been able to come to the same conclusion I did. [...] [...] After the hogwash posting, I received a number of comments on this piece of it: I’ve lived through lots of Windows launches inside Microsoft (3.1, NT 3.1, NT 3.5, Windows 95, NT 4.0, Windows 98, Windows 98 SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000) and outside (Windows XP beta tester).  I love early software. I’ll put up with just about any egregious bloated crap just to see what the fuss is all about.  But you know, at this point I’ve been unable to succesfully install and use any version of the Windows Vista CTPs, or IE 7.  If Vista was really six months away from shipping, it would be a lot more finished, the way that any of those previous versions of Windows were at this stage.  Anybody who had tried Vista would have been able to come to the same conclusion I did. [...]

]]> By: Nathan's Blog http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4559 Nathan's Blog Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:13:47 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4559 <strong>90% of Microsoft Rumors are Untrue (re: 60% Vista Rewrite)</strong> The rumor started with the authoritative headline “60% of Windows Vista Code To Be Rewritten“. Although the article doesn’t offer any detailson how the 60% estimate was reached, The Internet took the story and ran with it. The argumen... 90% of Microsoft Rumors are Untrue (re: 60% Vista Rewrite)

The rumor started with the authoritative headline “60% of Windows Vista Code To Be Rewritten“. Although the article doesn’t offer any detailson how the 60% estimate was reached, The Internet took the story and ran with it.
The argumen…

]]> By: pixelglove » Blog Archive » Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4513 pixelglove » Blog Archive » Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:15:45 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4513 [...] Then again… Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! [...] [...] Then again… Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! [...]

]]> By: Alec http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4508 Alec Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:56:43 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4508 Rog42 and Chris, I installed IE 7 the other day. You can read about my experience here: http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/20/ie7-beta-2-preview-not-ready-for-prime-time/ The few times I've tried to install Vista, I've had basics -- like the installer failing -- stand in the way. Anyway, yesterday I scrubbed one of the PC's around here, made a bootable CTP DVD from MSDN, and started it again. Seems I have a running Vista machine at the moment. I've already seen things like the "browse for drivers" window in the driver update system fail (generated a report back to MSFT). It's better than previous experiences, but I haven't used it enough to know how good it is. Rog42 and Chris,

I installed IE 7 the other day. You can read about my experience here:

http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/20/ie7-beta-2-preview-not-ready-for-prime-time/

The few times I’ve tried to install Vista, I’ve had basics — like the installer failing — stand in the way. Anyway, yesterday I scrubbed one of the PC’s around here, made a bootable CTP DVD from MSDN, and started it again. Seems I have a running Vista machine at the moment. I’ve already seen things like the “browse for drivers” window in the driver update system fail (generated a report back to MSFT). It’s better than previous experiences, but I haven’t used it enough to know how good it is.

]]> By: Chris http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4505 Chris Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:22:26 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4505 Humm... all this stuff about Vista not being ready/usable for/by ordinary people or developers seems odd. I say this because many of those who test/develop software are so wrapped up in their projects they often have littel time for the News. Oh sure maybe catching a cable show or two, but there are many stories not covered. One of those for which I no longer have a link) appeared maybe a month ago - seems that in Iran, where none of our copywrite/use laws have any effect, and where they have none of their own - Vista is in widespread use i.e. everyone uses it. The story focused on the rise of ISPs in every storefront/home. While this is evidently some beta, no one there seems to care. and while there must be many parts that are incomplete or buggy - It works, they use it. So since this seems to be the case - at least in Iran - why does anypart have to be rewritten, let alon 60% ? Food for thought Humm… all this stuff about Vista not being ready/usable for/by ordinary people or developers seems odd. I say this because many of those who test/develop software are so wrapped up in their projects they often have littel time for the News. Oh sure maybe catching a cable show or two, but there are many stories not covered.

One of those for which I no longer have a link) appeared maybe a month ago - seems that in Iran, where none of our copywrite/use laws have any effect, and where they have none of their own - Vista is in widespread use i.e. everyone uses it. The story focused on the rise of ISPs in every storefront/home.

While this is evidently some beta, no one there seems to care. and while there must be many parts that are incomplete or buggy - It works, they use it. So since this seems to be the case - at least in Iran - why does anypart have to be rewritten, let alon 60% ?

Food for thought

]]> By: It Must Suck To Be Ray -- Alec Saunders .LOG http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4479 It Must Suck To Be Ray -- Alec Saunders .LOG Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:07:25 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4479 [...] Alec Saunders .LOG Alec Saunders’ personal soapbox on World Events, Canadian Politics, and the Technology Business. Ingredients include a little wine, and a lot of VoIP. « Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! [...] [...] Alec Saunders .LOG Alec Saunders’ personal soapbox on World Events, Canadian Politics, and the Technology Business. Ingredients include a little wine, and a lot of VoIP. « Rewrite 60% of Windows? Hogwash! [...]

]]> By: James Bailey http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4472 James Bailey Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:04:07 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4472 No one at Microsoft has read "Mythical Man Month"? They are putting more engineers on a late software project. That is going to make it later. Vista is in seriously bad trouble as any experienced software engineer will attest. This is going to be ugly. No one at Microsoft has read “Mythical Man Month”? They are putting more engineers on a late software project. That is going to make it later. Vista is in seriously bad trouble as any experienced software engineer will attest. This is going to be ugly.

]]> By: Ricky Dock http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4469 Ricky Dock Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:04:44 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4469 Copland Copland

]]> By: Squash » Blog Archive » Who the heck is David Richards? http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4464 Squash » Blog Archive » Who the heck is David Richards? Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:13:47 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/24/rewrite-60-of-windows-hogwash/#comment-4464 [...] Dave Winer gives Richards “zero credence” and Alec Saunders also weighed in on the “hogwash” call. But then Richards has also had people back him including Stowe Boyd and Steve Gillmor who wrote to Scoble: Stop calling for the head of a reporter or an editor or both about the 60% code story. Are you so sure that’s untrue? Or put it another way–are you so sure anyone except maybe Bill really knows how much code has to be rewritten, or thrown away, to meet a January deadline which most likely will also slip? [...] [...] Dave Winer gives Richards “zero credence” and Alec Saunders also weighed in on the “hogwash” call. But then Richards has also had people back him including Stowe Boyd and Steve Gillmor who wrote to Scoble: Stop calling for the head of a reporter or an editor or both about the 60% code story. Are you so sure that’s untrue? Or put it another way–are you so sure anyone except maybe Bill really knows how much code has to be rewritten, or thrown away, to meet a January deadline which most likely will also slip? [...]

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